Coachbuilt trivia: what car is it? – Solved!

August 2 – Update: mistery solved! See comments below.

1947 Stanguellini – Bertone 1100

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August 2

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The base car seems indeed a Fiat 1100S by Pininfarina, probably with a modified front grill, but the mistery remains partially unsolved: where that big Abarth badge and such air scoop come from? The two cars have a different rear glass: are they really the same car?

March 9

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Surfing the web we stumbled across this portrait. This photo was taken around 1956/57 in the north-west of Italy. We couldn’t find out what car is this. Quite obviously it’s a Fiat based coachbuilt car, but some things really puzzle us: It seems a car built during the late fourties: some elements are typical of such period (see headlights and split windshield), but the front grille comes from a Fiat 1100-103 TV (1953-up). It also features an Abarth badge on the air scoop. Many thanks to whoever can help us to solve this mistery.

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12 Responses to Coachbuilt trivia: what car is it? – Solved!

  1. Topolino says:

    I think it is an 1100S Pininfarina around 1950

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  2. Classicvirus says:

    Thank you for the suggestion. Do you have some referral link to check or any photo to compare with this one?

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  3. I recognize the headlights, very early Bertone bodied Fiat 1100 Coupe.

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  4. Classicvirus says:

    Could be, but headlights are not enough to state that’s a Bertone job. The same headlights were used also by Stabilimenti Farina and Pininfarina.

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  5. Very Close looking car Page 85 Of michael Frostick Pinin Farina Book, Fiat 1500 1946 Pinin Farina Coupe

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  6. Richard D. says:

    I think the Fiat 1500 would be a much larger car. The Fiat-based Stanguellini Bertone is my guess, too, if that’s the car you meant James Peacock.
    Here’s my theory: the front end was crashed. The original front of that car is the work of some very skilled metal workers – quite distinctive – therefore difficult or expensive to repair. Look at this green one . A clever body shop grafted on an 1100TV grill and a pair of those glass Carello headlamps.

    Compared to the Pf 1100S, the Bertone has a more crowned shape to the bonnet (giving that neat scoop at the leading edge), a smaller back window, sliding side windows (look carefully at the passenger side), a small riser at the base of the side windows (Pf side windows go right down to the belt line), a crease in the roof that matches the windshield split.

    The Abarth sticker? I’ve got one on my tool box. It could be just decoration – but I wonder what IS under the hood!

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  7. Classicvirus says:

    You know what? Your theory sounds good. As the car was probably crashed on the front, it was fixed removing the Bertone grill and replacing it with a “modern” 1100-103 TV grill. The curved hood had been cut and the resulting hole was filled with a grill so becoming an air scoop. This, along with other elements like the sliding side windows and the small rear window identify this car as a Fiat based Stanguellini-Bertone 1100. Must say that whoever did such work was skilled, really skilled. Mistery solved. Thank you for your analisys, thanks to James P. and to everyone who gave his contribution.

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  8. I still think Bertone Fiat 1100..Small rear window is the reason. PF had a much larger rear window.Here is a link:

    http://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/fiat/1100/1951/134719

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  9. Richard D. says:

    James Peacock, I’m agreeing with you. These cars are also referred to as 1100 Stanguellini-Bertone. The link below is for the green one I mentioned in my post Aug 2.

    http://tinyurl.com/kgkqcy9

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  10. Pingback: Vires acquirit eundo: 1948 Stanguellini-Fiat 1100 by Bertone | Classic Virus

  11. Richard D. says:

    Hey Classicvirus;
    So nice to see that gorgeous Stanguellini Fiat 1100 today. It made me think back to the Coachbuilt Trivia car again. Have a look here:

    http://www.targapedia.com/album_targa_florio/1948_1968/1953/TARGA%20FLORIO%201953%20-%20STANGUELLINI/slides/18%20Fiat%20Stanguellini%20-%20Bignami%20Incidente%20%281%29.html

    This one was crashed at the ’53 Targa Florio – actually the morning before the start. Driver Agostino Bignami not only took himself out of the race, but Bonetto’s Lancia D20, too. Perhaps this Stanguellini Fiat was the basis for the Trivia car.

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  12. Classicvirus says:

    Watching it from a later perspective, that was an obscure prediction as Bonetto will die few months later in consequence of a crash during the Carrera Panamericana, while driving a Lancia D24.
    Jumping back to the car, yours it’s a suggestive hypothesis: unfortunately, without knowing the trivia car plate, we will never know it…

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